What you do speaks so loud that I cannot hear what you say. – Ralph Waldo Emerson
Yesterday night, I witnessed one of the most brilliant attacks in psychological chess ever – Manu Joseph vs. Barkha Dutt. Barkha maybe one of the most seasoned reporters in Indian media but she showed yesterday that she just can’t strategize an attack or a defense as an interviewee. Manu Joseph had only one card to play and he played it perfectly. The rest of the time he was busy playing Barkha Dutt
First see the entire panel discussion: Barkha Dutt, other editors on Radia tapes controversy
The first impression is that, well, Manu completely and totally screwed over Barkha for failing to give a satisfactory answer to his question and that Barkha was excessively defensive and rude to the point that it was totally unprofessional. It was a total and complete decimation of Barkha on the grounds of her professional ethics, courtesy, etc. Well, fair enough. I felt the same way too. But, when you think about it, it was less about how Barkha reacted and more about how Manu handled the situation.
First, let’s set some background context here. Barkha is a brilliant, incisive journalist who has broken a lot of sensitive issues in the past. She is a one of first few prominent faces in the Indian media who has enjoyed as much of a celebrity status as her many interviewees. However, a lot of the news around her has been quite negative; whether it was the controversy around her allegedly giving out sensitive information of location of the troops during the Kargil war or her reporting of the attack on the Taj wherein her reporting was used by terrorist handlers sitting in Pakistan to get a grasp of the situation and to instruct the terrorists who were in the Taj. With a Facebook group called “Barkha Dutt for worst senior journalist on the planet” (2447 followers), let’s just say that she wasn’t always exactly the most sought-after role model.
The second problem was that there has recently been a rather negative reaction against the way mainstream press either trivializes or sensationalizes major news. Whether it was the way they kept disparaging the CWG preparations without talking about the positives, the ridiculous coverage of Prince slipping into the well, the constant stream of depressing news and especially the smugness of the fourth estate in defending themselves against allegations of harming interests and people’s lives (like in the Taj attacks) in the interest of creating awareness around the issue. There was already this huge pushback against the media for this problem but there was no spark to light the fire.
Manu Joseph provided that spark. He provided tapes that basically insinuated that Barkha Dutt (who was one of the most prominent faces of the media against which this pushback arose) was not just a self-centered reporter who never gave a damn about the consequences of her actions (all alleged) but she was also a power-hungry broker between the Congress and the DMK. The wall broke. OPEN Magazine, a hereto unknown magazine, was now in the spotlight. It provided the people with a singular point of focus to talk about what was wrong in the media. And OPEN got a shortcut to the moral high-ground by taking on one of its own when no other media house (except Outlook) agreed to break the news. OPEN had another important thing going on for them. With the big media houses refusing to take on the issue (including Barkha’s own NDTV), and with Barkha’s rather terse reply to the tapes scandal, it seemed like a small media publication was now taking on the largest of its own fraternity in the interest of the truth. A perfect David vs. Goliath story around which the rest of the dissatisfaction of big media coalesced. After all, who doesn’t like to support the underdog? Manu used these two points (The pursuit of the truth and the David vs. Goliath) and played them like a master in the panel discussion. And unfortunately, instead of playing against him, Barkha was playing with him. Shooting regular self-goals to speak
Manu knew that he was on slightly shaky ground. While there was a legitimate discourse on what Barkha had done, he himself was not washed in milk either. He had not contacted the principles, he had published raw tapes without context and more importantly, he had even insinuated charges of quid pro quo, corruption and go-betweens even though he did not explicitly say so (he even regretted using the word go-between in one of his SMS to Barkha). Further, given Barkha’s original clarification as well, he knew that the allegations may get watered-down if the on-air debate between him and Barkha reached a final conclusion on what she had done was a lack of judgement. He decided to play to the masses.
If you follow OPEN Magazine’s twitter stream, even before the show started, they said that Manu Joseph had agreed to attend a panel discussion in NDTV’s own studio (David entering Goliath’s lair) on the condition that the entire discussion was aired absolutely unedited (the pursuit of truth and transparency). He automatically grabbed the first-mover advantage yesterday on the path to the ethical high-ground.
Now onto the interview part itself:
If you look at the interview, Manu kept re-iterating on one point and one point alone: Barkha was not answering the question that lay at the crux of the issue: When a PR person who was known to be affiliated with telecom companies expressed an interest in the appointment of the telecom minister, why did she not think it was a big story? It was a brilliant attack for only one reason: He wanted Barkha to choose between two devils: The lack of competence and intelligence to see a big story when it stared at her face or a lack of integrity for playing along with Radia. Even if Barkha knew the game, she could not really admit to either one. Manu knew that and that’s why he kept saying “Yes. Yes. Yes. I will answer all your questions!” and “I have an answer to that” because it always ended with “First, you answer my question.” Simple. He never had to answer her questions till the end! I’m not saying he didn’t have an answer. It’s just that he didn’t need to answer it because he knew that Barkha would not give him the answer he was seeking. Even in the last few moments, when he even admitted that he was trying to represent Open Magazine and that various people have agendas when they call up the magazine’s editor (basically agreeing with Barkha). He knew she could not give him the answer he needed to stop re-iterating the point. Barkha first tried to take a middle route saying that it was a lapse in judgement, not in breaking the story, but not taking Radia seriously. Honestly, no one was satisfied with the answer.
Then she made her fatal mistake. She started attacking Manu on his journalistic integrity. There was no question that she should have done that. However, it was for another time. It should have been raised after she could shut-up Manu on this question. Even if she had apologized for what she had done and basically accepted a lapse in judgment on not breaking the story, immediately, the interview would have no other option but to turn in the direction of what Manu had done on his part. Attacking him without closing his question made it look like she attacked him to defend herself of her actions when they actually were two different aspects that should have been discussed separately. When Manu finally said “You thought that a PR person representing two telecom companies discussing the appointment of a telecom company is not news? That is the news of the decade!” (I am totally paraphrasing it), he knew that the discussion was coming to an end and he knew it might be his time to sit on the hot seat. Fortunately for him, Barkha spent so much time not giving him what he wanted, questions that were directed at him were watered down due to the paucity of time. Plus, the discussions unfortunately got so frequently interrupted by the other panelists that Manu had the advantage of re-iterating the question several times, hence prolonging that aspect (I have to say extremely critical question) of the discussion. Even his constant ability to take the high ground was amazing. Barkha says “Our viewers should know that” indicating that no one knew that Open Magazine did not contact NDTV before printing the story. Manu once again deflects the issue with a “They will know everything right now”. The race to the high moral ground? Manu reached there by standing on frickin’ Barkha’s shoulders.
Manu also brilliantly portrayed his acceptance to the discussion as entering the lion’s den to well, bell the cat (Apologize for the mixed metaphor puns). With flippant comments like “Well, it’s your office, you can say whatever you like”, he immediately got onto the role of David. These are the kind of comments which if used in a court of law, get overruled but still stick to the minds of the jury (people watching the show) like flypaper. It was a totally unfair statement which was not even relevant to the discussion at hand. In fact, all Barkha said was “I would like to put forth my views as well”. Even other comments like “There is the guy standing there with a sign saying “Time’s up!” created two impressions: One was that the panel was not necessary completely in control of what was going on. And two, that NDTV was in more than a little flurry to close the discussion. Both, I would have to admit not true. But look at the Twitter feed. It is alight with several opinions that the discussion was cut off too fast and without adequate resolution. And who decided the format of the show? The length of the show? When the discussion should stop? The moderator, Sonia Singh and NDTV. Huge victory for Manu.
Further, pairing Barkha Dutt with Sonia Singh gave an impression that NDTV was bringing in the big guns to take on Manu. If they had just brought in a neutral moderator and let Barkha and Manu have it on one-on-one, things would be different. Somehow, I feel Sonia was not brought in to help Barkha demolish Manu but to keep the famed Dutt-temper in control. At times, you can see Barkha nodding her head while looking in Sonia’s direction. It is the typical reaction of someone who is getting a signal to “control your temper” and the reaction is around “Don’t worry. I’ll take care of it”. Anyways, that too worked against NDTV and Barkha.
Barkha fucked up a lot too. I mean, this was trial by media. There was no judgement based on the facts and the data. Barkha was deemed guilty even before the interview. She had to back down and just be polite and sweet to Manu. Despite the fact that that might actually kill her. She had to first decimate the notion that 1. This was not David vs. Goliath but two people having a difference of opinion and 2. She was not going to turn this interview into a “If I am wrong, what about you?” defense to the debate. She failed at both. Barkha smiled at Manu the way that wolves smile at sheep. Her eyes were like AK-47s. She lost her cool when Manu refused to do the same.
Attacking Manu both on his own integrity and the point around shifting of goal-posts were absolutely correct but the timing was wrong. Her approach was wrong. And frankly, so was her countenance. You could see the difference in Manu’s face when he attacked her and her face when she attacked him. Manu looked agitated that he was not getting to the truth of the tapes. Barkha just looked like she hated Manu and was trying to get back at him. If she could have only closed his questions with a satisfactory answer or atleast for 5 minutes isolated everyone else from the discussion and closed a one-on-one with Manu and then got back to Manu afterwards, she could have seriously diluted his victory (all opinions from the Twitter feeds and my first impressions). She should have waited for all the opening remarks to be done rather than waiting for 5 minutes into Manu’s question before getting into the issue. I’m not debating that the best defense is an attack. But in this case, Barkha really didn’t have anything on Manu in terms of OPEN doing similar kinds of activities. So when she attacked him, it kept looking like she was foaming at the mouth to come after him personally.
Barkha had asked a very valid question “Why me?” which Manu replied to as “Not all of them are pretty”. That was Barkha’s only gambit in an otherwise brilliant attack on Manu. She should have hammered him on that. “Thanks but really why me?” But her fury got the better of her. The only thing she came up as a reply was “sexist” and “misogyny” and that didn’t win her many supporters either. What Manu did was trivialize a very important question and got away with it. He too had to choose between two distasteful choices and took an arrow on that simply so that no one would further that discussion. It had nothing to do with sexism or misogyny. It was everything to do with taking on a very strong personality in a sector that had come under fire for sometime to basically sensationalize an issue under the blanket of the truth. Sonia let Manu off easily with a comment on sexism.
Frankly, this was the time for Manu to shine ! Brilliant quotes:
- “The source is the story” and
- “That is the story of the decade”
- “it is an error of judgment of enormous proportions”
- “I’m not saying I’m morally superior to you, i m asking you to answer the question”
Funnily, the question was never answered but now a lot of people still feel that Barkha was wrong. No one is really answering the question “What was she wrong about”. Her rudeness, her lack of common courtesy accorded to people who walk into her studios, her ability to keep her cool and answer to the point? Does that really talk about her corruptibility or her power-mongering? Her biggest problem is that people link her ability to give a direct answer and being defensive to her being corrupt and a political power-broker. People got really pissed off with her. Not many opinions have changed either way. Opinions have just managed to become more consolidated/ more rigid around the issue.
Some other general observations:
- Barkha should have shut up in the final closing comments. In one minute, she isolated even the others who had a balanced view
- And lots of crushing on Manu Joseph (as in women having crushes on Manu Joseph) going on in Twitter. That’s the power of being both new, presentable and in the eye of a storm at the same time.
Other posts on the same:
Raktha Hoon Main Khulla (The Great Bong at his hilarious best)
A Too-Argumentative Barkha Dutt Squanders Chance (on similar lines)
Fundoo tweet comments I came across:
sanchayan Manu joseph, aa jaa teri toh. Mere pass NDTV hain, twitter hain , reputation hain.. tere paas kya hain. Manu : Ek question ..
sidvee Until now, everyone asks ‘why did she do this story’. Now one guy asks her ‘why didn’t she do the story’. Poor @
BDutt
thesatbir #ndtv RT @
mahadevan_j: how i wish i had a bos like Pranoy Roy who lets me screw up and then gives me a platform to screw up in public again
gkhamba WHOA! Barkha to Manu: I don’t think you have an understanding of how politicial journalism.
#OHNOSHEDIDNT!
bhupeshrai @
BDUTT: Barkha you missed a point. Manu Joseph came to YOUR studio, to ask YOU questions.Not to get yelled at hysterically avoiding answers.
Gunjan47 @
BDUTT On second thought Manu Joseph knows which story to pursue to sell his magazines – only he shld know cheap tricks don’t last too long
celebritypicks BTW now that manu joseph is celebrity, someone somewhere must be googling ‘manu joseph nude pics’
Chanakya_Quotes Dear Manu Joseph you lost all respect by calling Barkha Dutt –> ” PRETTY ” Now this is not even a error in judgement
anoopc Yesterdays argument between Manu Joseph and Barkha on
#ndtv about the Niira Radia tapes wud put Rakhi Ka Insaaf to shame
BDUTT (yep, the lady herself) Manu Joseph claims my source was the “real ” story. What if his source who has leaked selective tapes is the “
gurugantaal Barka last tweeted 4 hours back ‘tonight at 10 I take questions’ Manu Joseph gave her the answer.
#barkhagate
sanjukta Manu Joseph-”One part of journalism is also a consequences of someone else motive” No prize for guessing what was Manu’s motive
nuc247 @bdutt was right abt sexism. Only Manu Joseph had the balls
Mine: So a man(u) walks into a bar(kha)